that is live at 5:30 eastern on cnn. u.s. army colonel michael meese spoke earlier this week about kevin terrorism. he is a former deputy chief of staff to general david petraeus. he also founded the combating terrorism department at west point, where he teaches. he spoke at the world affairs council for just over an hour. [applause] >> is truly an honor to be here with the alabama affairs council. general cleveland, all of the distinguished members of the alabama world affairs council, it is great to be here at the museum. it is the first time i have ever been to montgomery, so i greatly appreciate the invitation. general cleveland is nothing if not persistent in coming after speakers. the first time he called me, i was in afghanistan, he wondered why i cannot come back here to do this. being a distinguished graduate of the u.s. military academy class of 1949, and a's during r, and to think it was 60 years ago last september, if i get the history right, that general cleveland became an ace, it is truly remarkable, so please